12-year-old speaks out on the issue of abortion

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29 Responses to 12-year-old speaks out on the issue of abortion

  1. My opinion is better February 12, 2009 at 12:51 pm #

    This girl is an idiot. If we're not allowed to choose who lives or dies, then why are we allowed to choose when to procreate and have children? Are we not choosing tho give something life when we have unprotected sex? So if we have the choice to NOT procreate, if we have the have the choice to spill human seed- in other words, to have PROTECTED sex, is it not the SAME as choosing abortion?

    A man masturbates, he just wasted thousands and thousands of spermatozoids, each one is a possible human life. But there is nothing wrong with this?

    A woman goes through her period- her eggs are wasted, each one of those eggs is a possible human life. But this isn't wrong either.

    So what if one spermatozoid and one egg fuse, and the bearer of this fused cell realises, hey, I'm not fit to be a mother. I can't raise a child, I don't have the money nor the time, I'm too young, this is not only going to ruin MY life, but more importantly, the life of the future baby. So she chooses abortion. This is not wrong either.

    A fetus is NOT a little child, no matter what this 12 year old. Note, TWELVE YEAR OLD, might say. A fetus is a bundle of cells. It has no personality yet, no characteristics, no human qualities. Does it have a soul? I don't think so, but even if it did, are you saying ALL cells have souls? If so, clapping your hands is wrong, you're killing cells. Sneezing is wrong, you're killing cells. Washing your body is wrong, you're killing cells. Masturbating is wrong, you're killing cells.

    Get. A. Fucking. Grip.

    In any case, that 12 year old should have been a fucking abortion. What an ANNOYING voice.

    • Anonymous June 26, 2010 at 11:03 am #

      I am sorry but you are the idiot, she is a kid for one you are not so you should know that the fetus has its own heartbeat after 18days. By the mothers second missed period the baby already has a sense of smell and the brain starts the process of dividing into 3 parts, 1 part is emotions & language, the 2nd is hearing and the 3rd is sight. And no child "SHOULD" be a fucking abortion you fucking deadbeat. Besides it is the UNITED STATES FREEDOM OF SPEECH BITCH! And if you are not american than go the fuck home. Who cares if she has an annoying voice, she is stating her opionion, and your response about a fucking 12 year old was just wrong. I pray you don't have fucking kids, because YOU DO NOT DESERVE THAT BLESSING YOU PIECE OF SHIT.

      HAVE A NICE DAY!

      NOT!!!!!!

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  2. ashmud February 13, 2009 at 8:30 am #

    hmm… i wonder, was she just born with these ideas, given them by a hand from god, or… perhaps, did they come from somewhere?

    abortion is obviously a charged and loaded topic. but either side that you're on, 12-yr-olds shouldn't be your ammunition.

    • Githa February 15, 2014 at 7:57 am #

      I’m imdpesser. You’ve really raised the bar with that.

  3. My opinion is better February 13, 2009 at 2:06 pm #

    Her mother obviously wrote the whole thing.

  4. undercoversis February 14, 2009 at 11:30 am #

    This 12 year old should NOT have been an abortion, aoothobillah.

    Just because she speaks in an eloquent manner, confident, precise and boldly, and happens to be 12 does not mean you rid of her opinion and say that her mother wrote the whole thing! Her mother may have helped, may not have, but this girl is telling the world an important message and one which many people block their ears to!

    These days 12 year olds are seen as children because of the society and culture we have been brought up in, where basically you are a child until 18, 20 0r even until you get married! What sort of a mentality is this? This girl is smart and should be able to speak her mind and should be given time to be heard. She and others like her are the future. So im actually proud of her, that she is intellegently putting across her arguments in a coherant fashion and that her parents have raised a smart young lady. Id like to see an argument with someone of her age from the other side, and very doubt that there would be such an intellegent response.

    And by the way, arrogant person who thinks their opinion is better, there is every wrong with masturbation. As for mensturation, thats natural. Do you think women take the choice once a month to bleed? Subhannallah. But masturbation IS haraam and wrong. Read up on it. As for someone thinking their future babies life will be ruined, WHAT A JOKE! La hawla wa la quwata illah billah, they think that childs life will be ruined, so they kill them…?! Every struggle one makes, every effort, for the good, one will be rewarded for it. The reward lies with Allah and is from Allah. THats a ridiculous argument that potential parents are thinking of the betterment of their child, so they kill them of. Thats simply heartless.

    Thank you Saad for posting this. Mashallah to that girl.

  5. My opinion is better February 14, 2009 at 3:23 pm #

    You wrote a lot, but didn't manage to shoot down any of my arguments.

    What, exactly, is wrong with masturbation?

    Check your spelling.

    "These days 12 year olds are seen as children because of the society and culture we have been brought up in, where basically you are a child until 18, 20" Just because your paedophile profet Mohammed took 6 six year old's virginity, doesn't mean 6 year olds are adults. A 12 year old is not an adult.

    "Every struggle one makes, every effort, for the good, one will be rewarded for it." Is that the only reason you make efforts for the good? To be rewarded? So the only reason you do good things is because you want a reward, and you fear punishment?

    When I do good things, I don't do them to win 16 virgins and a paradise and all that bullshit, I do it simply because it is right, and I do not expect anything back.

    If you are 15 years old and have unprotected sex with your boyfriend, you are NOT fit to be a mother. And NO child should have someone as irresponsible and moronic as to not use protection even though it is free, as their mother. It is wrong.

    Grow up. Snap out of your religion and look beyond your "haraam" and your "rewards".

    I have faith in God simply because I have faith. Not because I'm scared of what will happen when I die. In fact, even though I beleive in God, yes, I know that when you die there is nothing. You cease to exist. That won't stop be from being good in my life.

    If someone like you beleived there is nothing after death, I bet you'd be a murderer, rapist, paedophilic terrorist.

  6. under cover sis February 15, 2009 at 7:37 am #

    You have a lot of time on your hands. Unfortunately, unlike you, i do not. I do not wish to delve further in your pityful way, with baseless arguments, words of hate and ignorance.

    The fact that the internet makes everyone seem 'anonymous' doesnt mean you are. I am sad to see that you have so much arrogance, ignorance and disrespect. If you appear to be in this state on the internet, i dont want to imagine how you are in real life.

    Continue to read this website though, and maybe one day inshallah, the Haqq will hit home.

  7. My opinion is better February 15, 2009 at 12:43 pm #

    Sure. Whatever. Call me ignorant, disrespectful and arrogant all you want, but admit you have no counter argument to any of my poins. You know I'm right.

  8. Chill February 15, 2009 at 5:04 pm #

    May Allah guide you to the straight path. Ameen.

  9. Saad Riazuddin February 15, 2009 at 9:14 pm #

    Ameen. Yo I think you need to delete this non-Muslim's post.

  10. My opinion is better February 16, 2009 at 5:58 am #

    Is that what you people do when you're faced with the ugly truth? You try to delete and ignore it? Just because you can't think of anyhing to justify yourselves with?

    Wow, bunch of quitters.

  11. Anomy February 16, 2009 at 1:04 pm #

    No we do that when people lie, and dumbasses like you come on the website and start to spread shit on the site. Peace, Dumbass.

  12. My opinion is better February 16, 2009 at 1:07 pm #

    Im sorry, Im guess your right. I am a Dumbass, sorry for posting lies. PEACE!

  13. My opinion is better February 17, 2009 at 4:21 pm #

    Yeah nice try asshole. You've managed to say I'm a liar, a dumbass and you've also impersonated me. How about you stop being a pussy and try to come up with some sort of counter argument. I'm sure Mohammed doesn't like wimps like you. Read my points and try to tell me why they are wrong. I fucking dare you. You could do that, or, continue doing what you've been doing for centuries, that is, call me an idiot and avoid the question.

  14. my opinion is better February 17, 2009 at 4:26 pm #

    i dare my self that i am a pussy, im sorry i was being a asshole forgive melted

  15. Saad riazuddin February 17, 2009 at 4:41 pm #

    theres nothing wrong with your believe intill you believe its wrong, but its our faith and our believe that makes our decision so if u belive its right then i still respect you but then go to your own chillyochristianyo site, im sure if i lacked education i would also go to a random christian or anything non muslim related and start arguing with their believe when i know theirs still no point. by the looks of it you seem like a confused 12 yearold yourself by the way.

  16. My opinion is better February 18, 2009 at 7:30 am #

    You speak a lot of crap. But you still have not tried to prove me wrong! Simply because you can't! You tell me I lack education, and that I "seem like a confused 12 yearold yourself by the way." Maybe you should check your own education. Try learning to write in english, for example. Instead of writing so much illiterate bullshit, please try to tell me why what I've written is wrong.

  17. Saad Riazuddin February 18, 2009 at 5:24 pm #

    Ok if you say I lack information, then I will stop writting. But in truth I did answer your question, there was nothing wrong with what you wrote, your completely entitled with your opinion. But its your heart and believe (as I said above, but you lacked to comprehend it.) that changes your opinion and makes you decide between right and wrong. I understand that in your belief they allow this, so its perfectly acceptable for YOU, But its wrong for us. So now that we got that covered, can you do us a favor and go to chillyochristianyo.com and leave us all alone.

    May Allah (God) all forgive our sins and guide us to the right path.

    Peace!

  18. My opinion is better February 19, 2009 at 4:28 am #

    I don't understand why you keep asking me to go to chyllyochrsianyo.com. I'm not christian, nor jewish nor anything else. I beleive in god not waht 40 men over a period of 100 years compiled into a holy book. Please check your spelling.

  19. Saad Riazuddin February 19, 2009 at 8:59 am #

    All you care about is the spelling? Did you actually understand what I wrote? Or is it that you can't come up with anything else?

    "May Allah (God) all forgive our sins and guide us to the right path. "

    USTAKFURULLAH. I meant to right, May Allah (God) forgive all of our sins and guide us to the right path.

  20. My opinion is better February 19, 2009 at 12:24 pm #

    Yes that's all very fine. You say this is my opinion and I'm entitled to it; I know I am. If this is true, then why did you post in the first place?

  21. Saad Riazuddin February 19, 2009 at 1:43 pm #

    Because I'm entitled to my opinion as well.

  22. Saad Riazuddin February 19, 2009 at 1:45 pm #

    And just because your entitled to your opinion, dosen't mean Chill shouldn't delete it.

  23. Saad Riazuddin February 19, 2009 at 1:46 pm #

    post all you want here, its not like it will make a difference, we will all stay to our belief, Inshallah.

  24. My opinion is better February 19, 2009 at 5:12 pm #

    This girl is an idiot. If we’re not allowed to choose who lives or dies, then why are we allowed to choose when to procreate and have children? Are we not choosing tho give something life when we have unprotected sex? So if we have the choice to NOT procreate, if we have the have the choice to spill human seed- in other words, to have PROTECTED sex, is it not the SAME as choosing abortion?

    A man masturbates, he just wasted thousands and thousands of spermatozoids, each one is a possible human life. But there is nothing wrong with this?

    A woman goes through her period- her eggs are wasted, each one of those eggs is a possible human life. But this isn’t wrong either.

    So what if one spermatozoid and one egg fuse, and the bearer of this fused cell realises, hey, I’m not fit to be a mother. I can’t raise a child, I don’t have the money nor the time, I’m too young, this is not only going to ruin MY life, but more importantly, the life of the future baby. So she chooses abortion. This is not wrong either.

    A fetus is NOT a little child, no matter what this 12 year old. Note, TWELVE YEAR OLD, might say. A fetus is a bundle of cells. It has no personality yet, no characteristics, no human qualities. Does it have a soul? I don’t think so, but even if it did, are you saying ALL cells have souls? If so, clapping your hands is wrong, you’re killing cells. Sneezing is wrong, you’re killing cells. Washing your body is wrong, you’re killing cells. Masturbating is wrong, you’re killing cells.

    Get. A. Fucking. Grip.

    In any case, that 12 year old should have been a fucking abortion. What an ANNOYING voice.

  25. Sara May 16, 2009 at 10:08 am #

    I will answer your questions to the best of my knowledge. Please hear (or rather, read) me out.

    "If we’re not allowed to choose who lives or dies, then why are we allowed to choose when to procreate and have children?"

    We do not always choose to procreate; our bodies have been made to do that. How else do you explain unplanned pregnancies? Going against our natural functions, and against life (which is basically death, so we're advocating death) is what we should not do.

    "Are we not choosing tho give something life when we have unprotected sex?"

    No, by having unprotected sex, we are being OPEN to life, no matter what may come of the act. Getting pregnant doesn't always happen as some couples face infertility issues, but having unprotected sex means that you have an open mind/heart.

    "So if we have the choice to NOT procreate, if we have the have the choice to spill human seed- in other words, to have PROTECTED sex, is it not the SAME as choosing abortion?"

    Yes. Abstinence is better than birth control or condoms, although not in the way you think. Having protected sex is, at its very root, a sign that you are not prepared to accept life, you are not prepared to lose your life for another being. So, if you are not willing to give life, protected sex is the murder before the conception, and abortion is murder after conception.

    "A man masturbates, he just wasted thousands and thousands of spermatozoids, each one is a possible human life. But there is nothing wrong with this?"

    Who says there is nothing wrong with that? Masturbation is wrong. It is wrong because it becomes a barrier for healthy sexuality. Sexuality was meant as a sacred bond between a MAN and a WOMAN, not just one person. It is also wrong because it kills sperms, but it is not comparable to abortion.

    "A woman goes through her period- her eggs are wasted, each one of those eggs is a possible human life. But this isn’t wrong either."

    This is NOT wrong. Menstruation is the natural cycle that GIVES life. Without it, nothing could grow in the womb. Check your facts please. Only ONE egg goes to the uterus each month. If it is not fertilized, it gets flushed out during the menstruation. This is definitely NOT wrong; it is NATURAL. The woman does not do it purposely, as a man does while masturbating. It just happens like it was meant to happen.

    "So what if one spermatozoid and one egg fuse, and the bearer of this fused cell realises, hey, I’m not fit to be a mother. I can’t raise a child, I don’t have the money nor the time, I’m too young, this is not only going to ruin MY life, but more importantly, the life of the future baby. So she chooses abortion. This is not wrong either."

    This IS wrong. If a mother-to-be decides that she is unfit to raise a child, she can always resort to ADOPTION, never abortion. Abortion is what ruins both lives; again, check your facts. Women who have had an abortion suffer from both mental, emotional, and physical side-effects, and all of these are quite severe. Adoption, on the other hand, provides a family with a child and relieves the mother of the excruciating decision to kill or keep her child. No matter what approach you have to it, abortion is always wrong because it is ALWAYS murder.

    "A fetus is NOT a little child, no matter what this 12 year old. Note, TWELVE YEAR OLD, might say. A fetus is a bundle of cells. It has no personality yet, no characteristics, no human qualities. Does it have a soul? I don’t think so, but even if it did, are you saying ALL cells have souls? If so, clapping your hands is wrong, you’re killing cells. Sneezing is wrong, you’re killing cells. Washing your body is wrong, you’re killing cells. Masturbating is wrong, you’re killing cells.

    Get. A. Fucking. Grip."

    A fetus may not be a child, but it IS a HUMAN BEING. It doesn't need to have a personality, qualities or characteristics to be a human, give me a break. Is that what your definition of a human is? Then perhaps dogs could be called humans; after all, they can have many of our qualities and personalities, right? And the fetus DOES have a soul, and it is NOT just a bunch of cells. You cannot logically compare the abortion of a fetus, a form of human life, to sneezing, clapping your hands, washing your body or masturbating. These four examples you gave are not forms of human life, nor do they have the potential of ever becoming a person (unlike a fetus). And by the way, it doesn't matter how old this little girl is; anyone who knows how to conduct a proper research and find real facts (unlike the author of a certain blog entry I am replying to) has the right to share their knowledge with the world.

    "In any case, that 12 year old should have been a fucking abortion. What an ANNOYING voice."

    Now that's just rude. If you're going to take a stand for something you believe in, don't turn to insulting people when you can't get your point across logically.

    It's not professional, nor is it convincing.

    And please, check your spelling.

  26. Islam4eternity August 25, 2009 at 4:19 pm #

    thnk of it this way, if all those non muslims didnt choose to do abortion, those kids would likely be non muslim as well and they will probably end up in hell (if allah chooses to do so). Soall of those 150,000 babies dying each year, will insha'allah (if allah wills), go to jannah

    And Allah (swt) knows best

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